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RTPI in Wales
RTPI yng Nghymru
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RTPI
mediation of space - making of place
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The Secretary
Richard Commission
Caradog House
1-6 St Andrews Place
Cardiff
CF10 3BE
25 February 2003
Dear Sir / Madam
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Royal Town Planning Institute
in Wales
Y Sefydliad Cynllunio Trefol Brenhinol yng Nghymru
PO Box 2310 / Bwlch Post 2310
Cardiff / Caerdydd
CF23 5WB
Tel / Ffon 029 2076 4066
Fax / Ffacs 029 2076 6746
Email / Ebost welshpolicy@rtpi.org.uk
Website ww.rtpi.org.uk
Patron HRH The Prince of Wales KG KT PC GCP
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The Powers of the National Assembly for
Wales: Issues & Questions for Consultation
I am writing in response to the above consultation
document which appears on the Welsh Assembly Government's
website under www.wales.gov.uk/subirichard/content/consultations/richard-commission-e.htm
The Royal Town Planning Institute (RTPI)
is a professional institution and a registered charity
which exists to further the art and science of town
planning. It is a UK-wide body organised in branches.
RTPI Cymru is a branch of the Institute covering Wales
with approximately 850 members. These include employees
of local government, other public bodies and the private
sector. In addition the RTPI has associate members including
housing associations, community planning groups and
other organisations. The membership has a central role
in securing sustainable development, including conserving
and enhancing the environment, promoting thriving communities
and supporting economic growth.
The consultation document has been considered through
the Royal Town Planning Institute's Welsh Planning Policy
Panel as well as through the RTPI Cymru Branch and as
a result, I am able to offer the following views on
the paper.
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Question: In what way do the powers of
the Assembly, or limits on its powers, impinge on your
membership or the people you serve, with examples?
The powers of the Assembly have a direct
impact on planning policy and implementation as well
as on economic policy, and critically - resource planning
and investment/funding.
The current responsibilities of the Assembly
include the administration of the town and country planning
system in Wales. Its activities include planning research
and policy, supervision of the development plan system
and the use of intervention powers in respect of specific
cases. It has certain powers to prepare secondary legislation
under the primary legislation for planning passed in
Westminster. However, a significant feature of the planning
system is that most day to day planning work, including
plan making and development control decisions, is the
responsibility of local planning authorities, with intervention
by the Assembly in detailed matters being comparatively
rare. There is also a substantial amount of European
planning legislation, which applies UK-wide.
The powers of the Assembly in relation
to planning impinge significantly on the work of RTPI
members and more broadly on land use matters in Wales.
The Assembly develops the general land use planning
policies for Wales within which local plan making and
decisions are made. While such policies are often similar
to those for England, appropriate variation is made,
such as policy guidance on planning and the Welsh language,
guidance on calculating housing need and new Green Belt
policy. The Assembly has also produced distinctive development
plan arrangements for Wales and is developing an all-Wales
Spatial Plan, both of which have gained wide support.
The Assembly thus has substantial scope to vary policies
and plan making arrangements for Wales, when such discretion
is allowed by primary legislation. There are, however,
two distinct limitations on the present powers and on
the opportunities to influence land use development
in Wales:
1. As noted above, the discretion of
the Assembly on policy and on administrative arrangements,
normally set out in secondary legislation; can only
be within the parameters set out in primary legislation.
The Assembly is unable to develop significant initiatives
of policy or arrangements to meet specific Welsh issues
unless it can secure the agreement of the appropriate
Whitehall department to allow for it in the relevant
primary legislation. It is also unable to choose the
timing for such legislation set by the priorities of
the London Cabinet. In addition, there is a practical
consideration limiting the scope for specific provision
for Wales in Parliamentary legislation, namely the time
constraints, which lead to only a limited number of
clauses for Wales being accommodated.
2. The Assembly is able to exercise powers
of policy and intervention in regard to most forms of
land use development covered by Planning Acts and the
Transport and Works Act. However, it has not been delegated
such powers in relation to energy development (such
as wind farms, wind energy generation over 50 MW and
other power installations and distribution facilities),
nor for most harbour developments, under the relevant
Electricity Acts and Harbour Acts. Such powers remain
with the DTI and Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
in spite of Assembly requests to assume them. These
limitations prevent the Assembly taking a lead role
in relation to these important forms of development
although they link closely to a range of other land
use, transport, environmental and economic responsibilities
already devolved.
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| Question: Whether,
and if so how, should the powers of the Assembly be strengthened
and changed. Should they include tax-varying powers?
It is recommended that:
1. Irrespective of a decision on primary
legislation powers, the Assembly should be given policy,
decision and intervention powers for Wales for developments
under the Electricity Acts and the Harbour Acts, currently
exercised by the DTI and the ODPM. The transfer of these
powers should take place in the short term to complement
existing Assembly functions and powers in relation to
land use, transport, environment and economic issues.
2. The Assembly should be granted general
powers to make primary legislation in relation to town
and country planning, including related matters in present
planning legislation such as advertisement control and
listed buildings. Such a change would provide the assembly.
with the capacity to decide its own timetable for changes
to the planning system and the scope for change including
novel solutions, without awaiting Whitehall decisions
on timing or agreement to all detailed proposals. Although
this may speed up the ability to create distinct Welsh
policy issues, there is an inherent danger in developing
a completely different planning regime in Wales as this
could lead to confusion to the investment and property
industry.
3. A further recommendation is that to
reflect the more distinctive policies and arrangements
for Wales deriving from acquiring primary legislative
powers, there would be a need for Wales also to have
its own Planning Inspectorate. Presently a single Planning
Inspectorate covers England and Wales, with limited
specific provision for Wales, while both Scotland and
Northern Ireland already have their own arrangements.
The cost of the Inspectorate services for Wales is already
fully carried by the Assembly and to ensure that the
Assembly can achieve arrangements which are fully responsive
to policies and arrangements for Wales, it should establish
its own Inspectorate based on the successful Scottish
model, (although arrangements for mutual exchange of
specialist Inspectors UK-wide could usefully be developed).
In respect of taxation powers, the Institute
has no observations on the issue of varying the rates
of income tax. However, any proposal to extend the powers
of the Assembly to formulate primary legislation for
the planning system should ensure that there is clarity
on the control by the Assembly of related fiscal matters
such as charges levied by local planning authorities
for planning applications and by the Planning Inspectorate
for its services. There should also be clarity on the
transfer of powers to regulate planning gain, including
its final dimension, i.e. the ability of local planning
authorities to require certain works or payments related
to the impact of new developments.
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Question: If the Assembly gains legislative
powers, is it inevitable that it should be on the parliamentary
model? If so, what organisational changes are needed
and what would be gained or lost?
The present arrangements of the National
Assembly, viewed from the outside, appear to be quasiparliamentary.
Although the Assembly is a corporate body, its detailed
working arrangements already involve some separation
of the legislative and executive functions. Such a separation
on a parliamentary model is a widely understood system
and would be likely to be more stable for a prolonged
period than maintaining the present 'corporate in name,
but not in reality' system.
A change to a parliamentary system would require a
range of detailed changes:
For clarity the Assembly should
be called a parliament, to clarify its different status
from evolving regional arrangements in England, and
its members be titled WMP (as with Scotland's SMPs)
and its Cabinet allowed to use the titles First Minister
and Ministers.
Clarity is important. The recent
decision to distinguish the Welsh Assembly Government
from the National Assembly for Wales has been confusing
and costly with no real evidence that it improves either
democracy or decision making. It is felt that any further
development of power should not mean more complex structures
or layers of decision-making.
Provision should be made for appropriate
Bill Scrutiny Committees on a task and finish basis.
In addition the role of the present subject committees
should be clarified with a greater emphasis on their
scrutiny and investigation role similar to that of Parliamentary
Select Committees.
The greater legislative and committee
workload is likely to lead to a need to increase the
number of elected members. However this could be a highly
emotive issue on the basis of perceived additional cost.
It is therefore desirable that any increase in membership
should be limited to the minimum necessary level. Reducing
the generous length of Assembly member holidays could
help achieve the additional workload with that minimal
increase in membership. Possibly an increase of 5 members
to a total of 65 would be appropriate. Rather than focus
on increasing numbers of AMs in Wales, more emphasis
should be placed on how AMs spend their time. Current
two three and a half-hour plenary sessions per week,
plus one two and a half-hour committee meetings to attend
does not represent the best use of their time.
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Question: How effective has the Assembly
been in influencing UK legislation, with practical examples
to illustrate strengths and weaknesses.
Experience in the planning field has
been mainly limited to the present Planning Bill. Without
being party to internal discussion it is unclear how
much influence the Assembly has had over most clauses
that are common to England and Wales. However, there
are a few clauses, which make specific proposals for
Wales indicating that the Assembly has had some success
in convincing the lead Whitehall department of the need
to include provision for Wales. The timing, amendment
and progress of the clauses will, however, be outside
the control of the Assembly, which can only seek to
influence indirectly via the office of the Secretary
of state or MPs.
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Question: What are the advantages and
disadvantages of a law making process divided between
Cardiff and London, and what are the contributions of
AMs, MPs and Peers?
The only clear advantage would appear
to be that joint primary legislation with limited specific
provision for Wales limits resource demands on the Assembly.
Greater staff and member resources could be needed for
primary legislation. There may also be arguments that
having common elements to the planning system in England
and Wales would be an advantage in securing development.
However, if legislative power were devolved, the common
background of European legislation, the likelihood that
the Assembly would only seek innovative approaches where
needed and its awareness of the development sector (as
well as Scottish experience) would suggest that this
would not be a major problem.
Disadvantages of the current system are
the lack of Assembly control over the timing; scope
and detail of changes needed to meet special planning
issues in Wales. Such a lack of powers is also likely
to reduce the attractiveness of standing for election
to a number of potential AMs, who may feel that their
opportunity to promote significant change is limited.
Additional powers would encourage high calibre candidates.
In contrast, some MPs from Wales and Peers from a Welsh
background may regret a lesser role in relation to Wales
but the wide scope for their input on nondevolved matters
should reduce this.
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Question: What would be gained or lost
if powers to make fundamental policy changes were passed
from Westminster to Cardiff?
Overall there would be a gain for Wales
through the Assembly, with its greater closeness to
issues, problems and opportunities, being able to pursue
appropriate solutions within its own timescale. For
organisations such as the RTPI it would also enable
them, through the Assembly's established inclusive approach
to policy development, to input to discussion and solutions.
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| Question: How would
Welsh interests be affected if the role of Welsh MPs were
to be reduced as a consequence of the acquisition of primary
law-making powers by the National Assembly for Wales?
Welsh MPs could be in danger of extinction
if powers were transferred and this would lead to isolation
if there were a different power in Parliament to that
of the Assembly. There should be clear advantages for
AMs and MPs to ensure that quality candidates are still
attracted to both roles.
Although the role of Welsh MPs in regard
to devolved issues would be reduced, they would have
increased capacity to play an active role in non-devolved
matters and could secure greater Welsh influence on
the those matters.
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Question: How would Welsh interests be
affected if the role of the Secretary of State were
reduced as a consequence of the acquisition of primary
law-making powers by the National Assembly for Wales?
It would appear that the present role
of the Secretary of State does not depend to a significant
extent on facilitating specific legislative arrangements
for Wales, although such work is clearly important when
it takes place. The removal of that role would leave
the other parts of the Secretary of State's role intact,
such as work in relation to Assembly funding, and representing
Welsh interests in Cabinet. Experience from Scotland
would be a model for a continuing role.
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Question: What would be stained or lost
if there were a clearer separation between England and
Wales on policy development?
Wales must continue to maintain links
and working relationships with Westminster. The Assembly
does not have the same level of resources nor - in some
areas - the expertise in its policy-making capabilities
to undertake primary research nor to create new initiatives.
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Question: How should we evaluate the
costs and benefits of moving to a different form of
devolution in Wales? What are the benefits, which should
be included in this evaluation, and what values should
we attach to them?
Before considering whether there is a
need to move to a different form of devolution in Wales,
baseline evidence is required to determine whether the
current system has failed to meet the priorities in
Wales. If there is evidence to suggest that it has failed
(or is failing), then an evaluation is required to ascertain
how and where it has failed, and whether there have
been any delays in implementation under the current
system.
It is also important to fully understand
the potential different priorities and to undertake
a cost/benefit analysis on which aspects would be beneficial
and by how much (what value) if Wales could do things
differently.
It is suggested that the key tests should
focus on whether the present or proposed system presents
a model that is:
Effective in being able to respond to issues
in Wales in a timely and appropriate manner;
Comprehensible to the general
public as well as to administrators and thus capable
of winning clear support;
Stable in offering Wales a
settled pattern of administration which does not lead
to ongoing calls for continuing change which would
distract attention from more day-to-day issues;
Economical in avoiding any step change in
administrative costs;
Any revised arrangement should meet all four criteria.
The Institute has no objections to these comments being
made public. I hope that these observations prove useful,
but if you require further clarification please do not
hesitate to contact me.
Yours faithfully
Rebecca Phillips
Welsh Planning Policy Officer
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