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Evidence of the Counsel General to the Richard Commission December 2002

Introduction

1. Thank you for inviting me to give evidence before you. I have experience of presenting cases but none of presenting evidence so it is altogether a new experience for me. My personal background is different from that of most if not all other officials who have appeared before you. I had no background in the Civil Service until my appointment as Counsel General to the National Assembly for Wales in October 1998. Up until then, I was a barrister in independent practice. I practised as a junior in Cardiff from January 1971 until March 1986 when I was made Queens Counsel. I then moved to London. I was made a Recorder of the Crown Court in 1986 and I continue to sit as a such on the Wales and Chester Circuit. I do so because it underlines my independence. I must admit to being deeply committed to devolution and to the Assembly. John Osmond and I addressed many an empty hall in the 1979 devolution campaign.

2. I am mindful of your intention to take a very practical approach, focussing on detailed examples of how things work and how they might be improved. I shall endeavour to keep those aims in mind. I particularly welcome your expressed intention to base your conclusions on evidence.

3. As the Counsel General, I have been able to observe from close quarters how the Assembly works and, in particular, I have observed the whole. From where the Permanent Secretary and I stand, we see the whole. The advantage which this gives is that of being able give evidence based on an empirical experience of how the machine actually works rather than evidence based on conjecture and theory. One can build firm conclusions on the former but none can safely be built on the latter.

4. I have brought some of my colleagues from the Office of the Counsel General (OCG) with me because the Office covers a very wide area of law and procedures such that one person cannot possibly master it all.

5. May I therefore introduce my colleagues:

  • John Turnbull – Legal Adviser to the Legislation Committee at present. Many years experience as a government lawyer in the Welsh Office and OCG. He is a very experienced draftsman and was the draftsman of the first transfer of functions order.

 

  • Keith Bush – who heads up the Transport Planning and Environment Team. A barrister in independent practice for some 20 years before he joined OCG and a Recorder of the Crown Court

 

  • Huw Davies - a member of the Agriculture Team and specialises in European law and was responsible for advising the Assembly on its policy on GMOs

 

  • Alun Jenkins – the administrator responsible for the Legislation Management Unit.

Overview of my evidence - Summary of Part I

In paragraphs 6 to 14 below I summarise Part I of my evidence.

The Office of the Counsel General

6. OCG came into existence in the circumstances and to perform the functions described in Part I of my evidence at paragraphs 26 to 28. The Counsel General is the senior legal adviser to the Assembly. The Welsh Office was a government department and as such was amenable to the authority of the United Kingdom law officers. The National Assembly for Wales, which replaced the Welsh Office, is not a government department and, therefore, is not amenable to the authority of the UK law officers. It was to fill that lacuna that the role of the Counsel General was created. It is a non-statutory position but it is recognised in the Ministerial Code and in a number of practice directions issued by the High Court of Justice.

Staffing Levels

7. The work of OCG is very different in nature and amount from that carried out by its predecessor, the legal group of the Welsh Office. The latter was over-staffed by unqualified lawyers many of whom had been recruited informally and, in my view, for that and other reasons was not providing value for money

8. I began by pruning the hedge, so to speak, as low as I could take it and then re-measured the demand in light of the anticipated business needs of the Assembly. Since then the number of staff has been demand lead.

9. There were recruiting rounds in each of the years 1999, 2000 and 2001. They were measured responses to the business needs of the Assembly but the demand still exceeds the number of lawyers

Making Assembly Legislation

10. The Assembly’s two most important products are its policies and its legislation. Between January and December 2002, OCG produced 276 statutory instruments – an increase of several hundred per cent over what the Welsh Office produced in 1997.

11. In 2001, 31% of the Assembly’s legislation was either unique to Wales or involved significant differences in its content to its equivalents for England.

The Form of Assembly Legislation

12. The process by which the Assembly makes it legislation is a uniquely open process. The content of the legislation is bound to be peculiar to Wales if its policies are different to those for England and the form of the legislation will differ from that of the rest of the UK because of the unique requirement to make it bilingually. However, although the Assembly is a new legislature there are limits on its scope to be different and the greatest external influence is the EU.

Clarity and ascertainability

13. A number of witnesses have said that it is difficult to ascertain from a single Bill or Act how, if at all, it applies to Wales. In my opinion, based on the experience of nearly 50 lawyers who work this settlement day in and day out, that point is overstated.

14. However, a problem of ascertaining the state of the law in Wales on any particular subject is looming. The nature of the problem is not peculiar to Wales. A similar problem exists with regard to the legislation of the UK, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand and most other jurisdictions but devolution will make the problem in Wales more difficult than it is at present. We propose that it be dealt with by an electronic index of legislation which will direct the reader to the source and will tell the reader how, if it is an Assembly power, it has been exercised. Accessible and coherent statute law is an important sub-set of public service modernisation.

Summary of Part II

Paragraphs 15 to 20 below summarise Part II of my evidence.

Corporate nature of the Assembly

15. In my view, to all practical intents and purposes the Assembly has evolved out of its corporate shell. Nevertheless, section 1 of the Government of Wales Act remains on the statute book and whilst it does, the Assembly will continue to be a corporate body – it will continue to have one indivisible legal personality. Furthermore, a number of the Assembly’s functions are not capable of delegation and are, therefore, exercisable only by the Assembly. Some quite important consequences flow from the fact that the corporate nature of the Assembly continues to be real and I have summarised those at pages 29 and 30 below.

16. One of those consequences is that if the two sides of the Assembly are to separate, primary legislation is needed. In my judgement the settlement does not have an enduring quality. If that is the case separation is inevitable. The two questions of whether the Assembly should have primary legislative powers and whether the body should be split into two corporate bodies are distinct questions which should receive separate treatment. The one step need not wait on the other.

Capacity to make primary legislation

17. If there is a constitutional case for giving primary legislative powers to the Assembly, the Assembly will have to acquire the necessary capacity to make it. In my judgement, it has the capability to acquire that capacity.

Uncertainty and complexity

18. A number of commentators state that the settlement is complex and the Assembly’s powers are uncertain. Our evidence will be that there is not unusual complexity or uncertainty and that the instances of controversy on which those witnesses rely in support of their arguments on uncertainty and complexity do not bear out their arguments.

19. We believe, therefore, that the case on uncertainty is overstated by commentators. Our shared view is that of course it has complexities but it is not unusually complex when compared with Westminster or Scotland or any other form of devolved government.

20. Therefore, if a decision is to be made as to whether Wales should have a different kind of devolution settlement, that is a decision which needs to be made by reference to matters of principle and considerations other than the complexities and uncertainties alleged by the commentators whose views and evidence have been put before you.

Wider considerations

21. I should like to conclude this opening statement by reference to some wider considerations.

22. The central point I wish to make is that the settlement cannot be seen in isolation from the other changes which have been happening in Wales in the wake of devolution. Devolution has had and will continue to have a catalytic effect on other institutions in Wales. For example, although the administration of justice is not a devolved function, it has undergone some considerable change in Wales in the wake of devolution. Those changes reflect the fact that Wales is now in its post-devolution phase. Wales now has a Mercantile Court and an Administrative Court, the EAT sits here as a matter of course and the Court of Appeal (criminal and civil divisions) sit here regularly.

23. The legal profession also has made re-arrangements in the light of these developments in "Legal Wales" in that they have formed specialist associations on a Wales basis. For example - the Welsh Public Law Association and the Wales Association of Personal Injury Lawyers. The Universities in Wales are offering law courses through the medium of Welsh. These changes, coupled with the fact that the law in Wales can be different in both form and content to the law in England means there is developing a Welsh jurisprudence.

24. Further changes to the settlement could therefore have a knock on effect on institutions not presently devolved.

Evidence - Part I

The Counsel General and his Office (OCG)

25. I have been asked to describe how the Office of the Counsel General came into being and its role in the Assembly.

26. The Welsh Office commissioned a departmental report in January 1998 (the Woolman Report) into the needs of the National Assembly for Wales for Legal Services. Its principal recommendations were:

"Para 4.8 – The Role of Speaker’s Counsel to use Westminster terminology to describe posts in the Assembly is liable to create confusion, as the Assembly will be a very different organisation with very different functions. For instance, there has been some use of the phrase "speaker’s Counsel" to refer to a position in the Assembly. This has little relevant to the Assembly. At Westminster, the function of speaker’s counsel are to advise the JCSI, or to advise on European legislation, to advise in relation to private bills and to provide general legal advice on establishment matters, and other issues such as contempt of parliament. Advice on procedural matters is not given by speaker’s counsel but by the parliamentary clerks.

Para 4.15 - A Single Legal Unit. We consider that the Assembly’s in-house lawyers should all be part of one integrated legal unit (with the exception of the Examiner’s post – see para 4.24). We see no need for there to be any separation of advisers between those advising the Presiding Officer, the Committees, the First Secretary, or the ruling party. For the Assembly to have more than one source of legal advice will invite legal conflicts, and duplicate scare legal sources.

4.16 – Need for Experienced Lawyers – and more of them. For the reasons given at para 4.2, The Assembly need lawyers with considerable experience of advising on Governmental matters, and of drafting legislation. By considerable experience, we mean Grade 6, or senior Grade 7 lawyers. Put in terms of the length of experience, we mean at least 5 years.

Para 4.18 – Chief Legal Officer to the Assembly. We identify a need for the appointment of a very senior and authoritative lawyer, to be appointed to be the chief legal officer to the Assembly. The main reason is that the Assembly will not have the benefit of being advised directly by the law officers.

Para 4.19 – the role of the law officers is crucial to ensure that the Government keeps within the law in its legislation and executive actions. If a policy development has significant legal aspects, the law officer may well advise on a continuing basis as it unfolds. "Questions of Procedure" contains guidance on the circumstances on which the law officer should be involved. These include:

  • Where departmental advisers are in doubt about the legality or constitutional propriety of legislation which the government proposes to introduce;
  • Where questions arise about the legality of proposed administrative action, particularly where it might be subject to judicial review;
  • Where the legal consequences of government action could have important repercussions in the international or European community fields.

4.20 The law officers are sometimes brought in by departmental legal advisers who is unable to convince a determined minister of doubts about the legality of proposed action. In such circumstances, the law officers’ opinions are authoritative, both because of the perceived quality of their legal work, and because of their authority as the principal legal adviser to the cabinet.

4.21 We consider that it is essential that the Assembly is provided similarly with legal advice the authority of which is undeniable, in order to reduce the risk that the Assembly may act unlawfully, and the risk of friction with the UK government or with the European commission. There will also be a need for the Assembly to be represented by a very authoritative lawyer in discussions that may take place on legal matters with the government or in Brussels.

4.23 How senior should this post of chief legal officer be? We consider the post will need to be graded and paid suitably to attract a lawyer of considerable authority. Ideally the first appointee should possess the ability and authority of, say, a QC. It may be necessary for the Welsh Office to enlist the assistance of senior legal figures to identify suitable candidates and to encourage applications from them. "

27. That then is background against which the Office of the Counsel General came into being.

28. The Office of the Counsel General is responsible for making the Assembly’s legislation and for providing legal advice on all aspects of the Assembly’s fields of responsibilities. Within that office there are teams of subject lawyers which correspond with the portfolios of the ministers of the Welsh Assembly Government.

Staffing Levels in the Welsh Office Legal Group (WOLG) and in OCG

29. The Woolman Report provides a useful snapshot of the staff employed within WOLG as at October 1997. The Report shows a total of 58 staff. From the total number of 58, there were 21 permanent qualified staff, 9 permanent support staff and 28 casual staff (mainly legal trainees and paralegals).

30. At June 1999 the WOLG had a total of 43 full time equivalent staff, again comprising a mixture of qualified and non unqualified staff, together with casuals.

31. Devolution and the Government of Wales Act 1998 rendered it necessary to engage more lawyers with a Welsh language capacity, lawyers with European law expertise, lawyers with human rights act expertise and lawyers with experience of drafting legislation. There was also a need for the lawyers to play a greater role in advising politicians face to face.

32. In order to move forward into the new legal landscape created by the establishment of the Assembly it was clear to me that the former Legal Group would require restructuring, with a greater emphasis on qualified lawyers to meet the new demands. OCG has grown steadily in order to meet these demands and a total of three recruitment rounds for lawyers have taken place. The number of non qualified staff involved in legal work has been significantly reduced.

33. OCG now has a total of 68 staff. Account must be taken, however, of developments within the Assembly. In April 2002 the Assembly became responsible for the Care Standards Inspectorate Wales, in relation to which OCG engaged a total of 6 lawyers. Since the establishment of the Assembly OCG has become responsible for the Legislation Management Unit which oversees the management of the Assembly’s subordinate legislation programme in accordance with the Government of Wales Act 1998 and Standing Orders. The number of OCG staff on this basis is thus 42 lawyers (excluding CSIW lawyers), and 20 support staff (including LMU).

34. The volume, nature and content of the work performed in OCG is considerably changed from the days of the Welsh Office Legal Group, and a comparison of numbers must thus be treated very cautiously. In comparing the total number of lawyers before and after devolution note must also be taken of the Government’s wider constitutional reform agenda which has been pursued since 1997. Thus major pieces of legislation such as the Human Rights Act 1998, the Data Protection Act 1998 and the Freedom of Information Act 2001 have all placed increased demands on OCG.

Making Assembly Legislation

35. Between its establishment on 1 July 1999 and 3 December 2002, the National Assembly for Wales, acting within the functions devolved to it, has made:

  • 562 General Statutory Instruments;
  • 330 Local Statutory Instruments.

36. These figures are further broken-down annually as follows:

 

General SIs

Local SIs

Total

1999

29

28

57

2000

119

109

228

2001

241*

90

331

2002 (to 3 Dec)

173

103

276

Total

562

330

892

* The figure for 2001 includes 45 General Statutory Instruments made by the Assembly in response to the outbreak of Foot and Mouth Disease.

37. As a comparison, in 1998, the Secretary of State for Wales made a total of 90 Statutory Instruments in respect of Wales alone; 66 General SIs and 24 Local SIs. (Source HMSO Archives 1998).

38. In 2001 (the latest complete year), the National Assembly made a total of 331 SIs - an increase of 367% on the number of Wales-only SIs made by the Secretary of State for Wales in 1998.

39. In his inaugural lecture as Chancellor of the University Glamorgan, Lord Morris of Aberavon QC, former Attorney General and Secretary of State for Wales, commented on the law-making performance of the National Assembly for Wales during its first year.

40. According to Lord Morris: "An analysis has been made that of the 200 Statutory Instruments passed during the first year of the Assembly’s life, only one or two have differed from the Westminster draft". Lord Morris suggested that the Assembly could have been expected to have amended at least ten Westminster SIs although he suggested that a possible explanation might have been that the Assembly’s machinery was still in the process of settling down.

41. An up-to-date analysis carried out by my office reveals that the picture painted by Lord Morris has now changed out of all recognition. In the calendar year 2001 the Assembly passed some 230 pieces of general subordinate legislation (in addition to a large number of routine local orders). Of this general legislation, 31% (circa 39% if legislation to curb the spread of foot and mouth disease is disregarded) of the total, were either unique to Wales or, where they paralleled similar legislation passed in England, involved significant differences in drafting reflecting Welsh circumstances.

42. Lord Morris’s bench-mark for the success of devolved legislation, that 10% of orders should differ from the equivalent English legislation, has therefore, in only the second full year of the Assembly’s existence, already been far surpassed. This achievement is all the more striking in view of the fact that the foot-and-mouth crisis during 2001 led to the making of large numbers of emergency orders needed to halt the spread of the disease. For practical reasons these had to be identical with those in force in England and were often made jointly with the UK Agriculture Minister. Had this element not been present, the proportion of Assembly legislation bearing the "made in Wales" hall-mark would have been even higher.

43. A detailed analysis, by reference to the broad areas of the Assembly’s functions, is given in the Table below. Variations between subject areas reflect the nature of the subject-matter and the opportunities which arise at different times to develop distinctively Welsh legislation.

Subject Area

No. of orders with distinctly Welsh content

(A)

No. of orders mirroring those for England

(B)

Total (A+B)

(A) as a % of total

Transport Planning and Environment

10

12

22

45%

Education & Lifelong Learning

15

15

30

50%

Health and Food Safety

4

34

38

11%

Social Care

6

16

22

27%

Agriculture, Fisheries & Forestry

12

71

83

14%

Local Govt & Housing, Economic & Industrial Development

27

18

45

60%

Welsh Language

1

-

1

100%

Total

75

166

241

31%

 

44. Where the Assembly uses its legislative powers to devise specifically Welsh solutions, the way in which it does so also goes beyond that anticipated by Lord Morris. Drawing, no doubt, on his experience in the Welsh Office during the 1970s he spoke of the Assembly "amending Westminster SIs". In practice the Assembly often develops Welsh legislation in parallel with or even in advance of the corresponding English legislation. This is particularly so in those areas where the Assembly has been given, under Acts of Parliament passed post-devolution, powers to implement, in relation to Wales, important reforms to the law. Examples exist in the fields of education, transport, local government and access to the countryside. In such areas the Assembly does not merely react to initiatives emanating from Whitehall, but is required to adopt a pro-active approach and to develop the necessary secondary legislation in consultation with relevant bodies in Wales. Its ambitions, as demonstrated by the impressive body of "made in Wales" legislation drafted within the OCG, go far beyond merely amending a precedent set in London.

 

45. The Assembly makes its statutory instruments in a way which is unique in the modern history of the United Kingdom. It is a democratically open process and, save exceptionally, it is made bilingually. There are four procedures. Three of them involve scrutiny of the legislation by the subject committees. This open and democratic process offers a real opportunity to influence the content of the Assembly’s legislation and that of the policies of the Welsh Assembly Government. There are a number of levers of influence that can be pressed. There are the statutory ties which were created by section 115 of the 1998 Act between the Assembly and business including the consultation processes and the partnership councils and then there are the AMs, the ministers, and the subject committees. These levers are there to be pressed and pressed for the right purpose at the right time can produce the right results.

The form of Assembly legislation

46. The National Assembly is a new legislature. It has no history or precedents of its own. There are plenty of precedents elsewhere in the world from which it might chose, but none which it is necessary for it to follow. Largely untrammelled by practices of the past, it therefore enjoys a greater freedom than more established legislatures do to take its own course as to the form of its legislation. I accept, however, that it would be very unwise if it were to develop its statute book without reference to experiences elsewhere. Its aim must be to emulate the best practices and to avoid poor practices. I say that Wales is largely untrammelled by established practices because it is not entirely free from the past or from external influences of which the EU is the greatest.

47. Dealing first with the past, it is tending towards adopting the style of the legislation of the United Kingdom Parliament. The principal reasons for this are:

  • The Assembly inherited its first batch of legislative drafters from the Welsh Office (which ceased to exist when the Assembly came into being in 1999). Quite naturally, their paradigm was Whitehall whose style was the only style they had known.
  • The content of secondary legislation is heavily influenced by the content of the primary legislation from which it is derived.
  • In its form, there is a tendency to adopt a similar form to that of the secondary legislation made in England under the same primary legislation. Consistency and uniformity are, in my view, too highly regarded.

48. We are therefore seeing Whitehall practices becoming our own practices and the longer we allow those practices to take root the more difficult it will become for Wales to develop its own distinctive style; one that is the right fit for its own particular needs. This is not to say that the Whitehall model is not right for the United Kingdom. I have no doubt that First Parliamentary Counsel would say that it is a tried and tested model which is wholly appropriate for the purpose which it serves. In those claims, I am sure he would be correct but Wales’ circumstances are now different from those of the United Kingdom in some very important respects. I shall return to this point in a moment.

49. The fact that the Assembly is not a primary law-maker and is part of two other legislatures, UK and EU, is a real constraint on the Assembly’s freedom to choose the form and contents of its legislation.

50. Subject to the points I have just made, the National Assembly, being at the very early stages of its life as a legislature, is in a particularly good position to start off on the right foot in choosing core drafting objectives which are appropriate to its own needs and circumstances. What ought those objectives to be? Those agreed upon by legislatures generally today are clarity, coherence, effectiveness and accessibility (see Ireland’s White Paper ‘Towards Better Regulations’). Clarity in the sense that the statute or other regulation must be well drafted; coherence in the sense that it can be easily followed; effective in the sense that it achieves its objective; accessible in the sense that if it can be easily located. Core objectives are an essential part of the quest for better regulation and I would respectfully agree that "clarity" and "effectiveness" should be amongst them. I should like to suggest, however, that in the context of the need for clarity in the law as opposed to clarity in a specific instrument of law, the word "ascertainability" more precisely describes the core objectives of "coherence" and "accessibility". It is wide enough in its meaning to embrace both accessibility and coherence but it also implies certainty of meaning, certainty of meaning that is not only of the individual instruments but of the law in relation to the subject matter under consideration. That law might be spread between a number of instruments of one kind or another each of which is clear, coherent and accessible in itself but it is only ascertainable if the various pieces can be pieced together with ease and facility and in a way which makes sense of the whole which, I would argue, is the overriding objective.

51. Although there is broad agreement as to what the objectives should be, it is unlikely that all legislatures will work to them in the same way or to the same effect. I would respectfully agree with Robert Bergeron QC (Senior Legislation Counsel, Department of Justice, Canada) that there cannot be a universal style of drafting. Our circumstances, our traditions, our histories, our constitutions are very different. That the legislation of the National Assembly must be bilingual when it comes to be made, unlike UK legislation which is monolingual will wield considerable influence on the form and content of the Assembly’s legislation. That the three home countries of the United Kingdom (Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales) are devolved rather than federal as in Canada or independent as in Ireland will also have a marked influence upon the form and content of the legislation of those three countries. That Canada is bijural whereas the United Kingdom and Ireland are not will influence how that nation will work to these common objectives and the fact that the UK and Ireland are members of the EU whereas Canada is not will manifest itself in differences in the form of the statutes made in those countries.

The European constraints on the drafting of Assembly legislation

52. EU law has a considerable impact on the content and style of the law that is made by the National Assembly for Wales. The purposive approach to drafting in Community instruments is very different from the more precise drafting style of the common law jurisdictions. Also, the process for ensuring "better regulation" in terms of its content means that there must be effective engagement with the EU law making process with member state authorities and EU institutions having access to proper assessment of community proposals. Issues abound as to how our own political priorities can be given effect in an EU framework which sets aside national laws which are incompatible with Community law.

53. The Government of Wales Act ‘98 makes any obligation of the UK under Community law an obligation of the Assembly in so far as such obligations can be implemented or complied with by the exercise of Assembly functions. The provenance of a significant proportion of Assembly legislation is some obligation or right founded in EU law. In the case of agricultural, economic development environmental and food safety matters most, if not all, Assembly legislation and administrative activity in any year is derived from Community legislation. The Assembly has wide powers of implementation under the UK European Communities Act 1972, whereby it can make legislation to implement Community law for subject areas or particular Directives, although these powers depend on it having been designated by Order in Council – that is, designation is in the gift of the UK central Government. For example, the Assembly is designated to make regulations in relation to the common agricultural policy and the deliberate release of genetically modified organisms. The Assembly may also use its other domestic powers to implement Community obligations.

54. Central in this context is the issue of the drafting approach we should take to the implementation of EU Directives. The tradition in the UK has been a "copy out" approach where the detailed European provisions are reproduced in domestic legal measures. It may be that a referential approach which gives effect to Directives in a more straight forward way increases transparency by making the user of the legislation connect more directly with the key legal text which in all cases is the relevant Community instrument.

55. Being part of the EU "club" necessarily means that national laws and political aspirations can be overridden by EU law. The most high profile example of this in Wales is in relation to genetically modified ("GM") crops. The Assembly’s current policy, which differs from the UK government’s position, is to apply the most restrictive regime to GM crops that is possible within the EU framework. The extent to which EU law limited Assembly aspirations came as a surprise to the many uninitiated members of the press, public and political class. The Assembly is required to operate a risk assessment based approach to the release of each and every GMO and must accept that authorisation for marketing at the European level means authorisation in Wales. Some have misled themselves and others to believe that the position is otherwise or that it is vague and ambiguous whereas it is none of these. On the contrary, it is clear and certain.

56. There has, however, been some success for the Assembly in this area where it has engaged positively with the Community system to the full extent of its powers. The Assembly Ministers were particularly concerned about the cross-contamination issues surrounding the release of a particular GM maize which had European wide approval. The Assembly acted to impose legally enforceable separation distances which, under the EU regulatory system, had to be notified to the Commission and other Member States. A decision at European level on the Welsh action is still awaited, but regardless of the outcome of that, the Assembly’s work made a positive contribution to the wider debate on how GM crops are to co-exist with conventional and organic crops.

57. The example of the GMOs is interesting because although the voting power in regulatory Committee and Council on these issues remains the responsibility of HMG, the domestic powers to implement the Directive on deliberate release are devolved to Wales. This gives the Assembly scope to raise important issues at the European level where perhaps the UK Government may not share the same view or attach lesser importance to it.

58. Welsh devolution has thrown a number of interesting sidelights on the problem of better European regulation. One such sidelight relates to the aim of clarity. A charge frequently levelled at EC legislation is that it is insufficiently clear. I understand that this charge comes in particular from the UK and Ireland, and that many politicians and officials from mainland Europe riposte that EC legislation is perfectly clear to them, being more in line with their drafting traditions.

59. A perceived problem of clarity nevertheless exists at EC level. Imagine then the impact that has in a country where implementing legislation must be made in two languages, one of which is an EC official language and the other – Welsh – is not. Yet the Welsh version is of equal validity in domestic terms.

60. Our experience of bilingual legislative drafting has taught us the benefits it typically brings in terms of clarity. When you have to express the same thing in two languages you really have to know what that thing is. We have had recent experience of a provision in a piece of EC legislation – a fascinating and highly significant law controlling the import of peanuts from China – which was so ambiguous that it appeared impossible, for some time, to draft the Welsh version of the implementing legislation. The rogue phrase was "immediate packs" – which is ambiguous, to say the least, in English. All the options in Welsh were just that – options – they opted for one possible meaning of the phrase or the other. Lawyers in my office with linguistic skills examined the French, German, Spanish and Italian versions of the Decision in question. They did not help. We faced a situation in which the Welsh version of our legislation would be clear but the English ambiguous – in which situation a court in Wales should base its judgment on the Welsh version, a version which raised problems never considered when the EC Decision was made.

61. The solution we decided on was to insert an interpretative provision to the effect that any term used in the definition of the expression "Chinese peanuts" – which included the infamous "immediate packs" – had the same meaning as in the Commission Decision. Not very helpful to the court, but the only thing we could do in the circumstances, we felt – until it transpired that such was the urgency to make the relevant Order, we had to dispense with a Welsh version after all and make do with a mere translation (which is not regarded as equally authentic).

Two perceived problems with regard to the Statute Book in its application to Wales

62. Two complaints in particular are levelled at the United Kingdom statute book in its application to Wales. The first relates to the territorial application of Bills and Acts to Wales. The gist of the complaint is that it is difficult to ascertain which provisions of a Bill or Act affect the National Assembly or otherwise affects Wales in a way different from the rest of the jurisdiction (the clarity problem). The gist of the second complaint is that it is difficult to ascertain and understand the state of the law in post-devolution Wales on any particular subject (the ascertainability problem).

The clarity problem

63. The territorial extent of an Act of the United Kingdom Parliament is the jurisdiction to which it applies. The assumption with regard to all United Kingdom legislation is that its territorial extent is the United Kingdom (ie England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). If the territorial extent differs from this, the Bill or Act will say so. It has always been the case that from time to time, Acts have made different provisions for different areas within a jurisdiction. These produce differences in territorial application. Following devolution, such differences have become much more common as regards England and Wales. Often the differences result from giving powers and responsibilities to the National Assembly to do things where in England similar powers and responsibilities are given to a minister (see generally, Geoffrey Bowman, First Parliamentary Counsel, in his evidence to the Welsh Affairs Committee, November 2002).

64. It is a widely held view in Wales that the territorial application of Bills and Acts is not made clear enough and consequently it is difficult to ascertain the effects of the Bill or Act on Wales and the National Assembly.

65. Personally, I find it difficult to measure this particular problem because I am not altogether persuaded that it exists. I have not seen it demonstrated. I have never experienced it myself nor has any other lawyer in OCG experienced it. This is a fairly reliable indication that either the problem does not exist or that the extent of it is nowhere near as it is represented to be.

66. Assuming, contrary to the evidence, that it is a problem, what is the solution? The solution most often pressed in argument is to group together the provisions applicable to Wales in a separate part of each Bill. The Bill should deal with all the English provisions together and all the Welsh provisions together irrespective of subject-matter.

67. I would very much agree with the views of Geoffrey Bowman that grouping together the provisions applicable to Wales would be a novel and unstructured approach to the making of legislation. It would be wasteful to set out the provisions for England and then replicate them for Wales. It would produce a distorted picture. What really matters is the subject matter of the legislation not that it happens to be English or Welsh. The central consideration is whether the legislation which is produced is the best legislation which can be produced in the circumstances in which the particular Act comes to be made. I doubt that the grouping together of the Welsh provisions in a separate part of the Bill would produce better legislation save in those cases where the Bill makes significantly different provisions for England and Wales. Others have argued that the Bill or Act should include information or explanatory provisions explaining how or where Wales is dealt with. That solution would be to risk clarity and might also mislead the consumer (for instance, if a late amendment of the Bill is accidentally omitted from the explanatory provisions).

Explanatory notes

68. As a result of discussions between the Office of Parliamentary Counsel of the United Kingdom Government and my office it has been agreed that the effect of a Bill on Wales will henceforth be set out in explanatory notes. Generally, they are not part of the Bill or the Act, but they will help the reader understand the way in which Wales is effected. This is a welcome step which does not threaten the clarity of the Bill or Act.

The ascertainability problem

69. This is the problem of ascertaining the state of the law on a particular subject at a particular date. Potentially, it is much more serious a problem than that of ascertaining from a single Act how, if at all, it applies to Wales. I do not believe that it is a real problem as yet but it is beginning to emerge and I am sure it will become a serious one unless steps are put in place immediately to deal with it. It arises out of the nature of the devolution settlement and, in particular, out of the process by which the Assembly acquires its powers.

70. That process begins with the identification in the ‘98 Act of the fields of responsibilities but not the powers from which functions may be transferred to the Assembly. Although the Act identifies no less than eighteen fields from which responsibilities might be transferred in the first transfer of functions order it does not devolve all responsibilities in any field. For example, not all responsibilities for agriculture or health in Wales have been devolved.

71. The first transfer of functions order transferred a very substantial number of functions. Since then, further slices of powers in those fields have been transferred by transfer of functions orders and primary legislation. There will be more, I am sure. What the Assembly, therefore, has is a collection of powers given to it piecemeal in a number of Acts and transfer of functions orders. This process of accretion whereby the Assembly’s powers grow by gradual additions occurs through Acts or orders which might at the same time take back, modify or repeal powers transferred in earlier orders and Acts. In addition to and lying on top, so to speak, of these "slices" of powers conferred in the manner I have just described will be the secondary legislation made by the Assembly in exercise of those powers. To ascertain the law on any subject as at a particular date, it is necessary to work through all these slices of legislation.

72. It would not be correct to conclude that the devolution settlement is the sole cause of the problem I have described. It was present in quite severe form in the UK long before 1998 but the devolution settlement has the potential to make the situation much worse in Wales.

73. Three questions of particular importance to the public, politicians, lawyers and Assembly officials are what are the Assembly’s powers on the matter to which the question relates; which of those powers has the Assembly exercised; to what effect has it exercised those powers? These are questions of considerable importance. They have a constitutional significance. The Assembly and especially those advising it need to know with some measure of certainty what its powers are and the public needs to know what the law is. Access to the law is a basic right. If it is so unreasonably difficult to ascertain what it is the validity of the law itself becomes questionable.

What is the solution?

74. It is not a problem which can be removed by making separate provisions for Wales in Bills and Acts nor by explanatory notes. Understanding how individual Acts of Parliament affect Wales and the Assembly is not the problem. Ascertaining the state of the law in a particular field on a particular date involves not just one Act of Parliament; it involves the whole statute book, all Acts and all instruments in exercise of the Assembly’s powers.

Consolidation

75. I do not believe consolidation can be an answer in the circumstances in which the Assembly finds itself. The state of the Assembly’s powers are far too fluid to contemplate consolidation which requires a fairly settled state of the law. The Assembly’s powers are almost certain to grow, I would think. I emphasis "I would think" because I need to keep a clear boundary between myself and matters of policy. I accept, without question, that the latter is essentially for ministers but it is pertinent to note that during the last two months the House of Lords Select Committee on the Constitution and the Welsh Affairs Committee of the House of Commons have conducted separate inquires into the procedures and powers of the Assembly. Then there is your Commission which is also conducting an inquiry into the adequacy of the Assembly’s powers. Each of these bodies is likely to draw conclusions about the Assembly’s powers and their efficacy. Your terms of reference include the making of recommendations for change. Also supporting the conclusion that further changes are likely and, therefore, that the Statutes Book in Wales is not in a settled state is the fact that each time there is a new Act relating to England and Wales, the question is bound to be asked – how is this to impact on the Assembly and its powers.

76. On this evidence, I would think that it is a very good bet even for an official to make that the Assembly’s powers are and will continue for some considerable time to be in an expansive phase. I am sufficiently sure of this to conclude that consolidation is probably out of the question as a solution to the problem I am describing. There is another reason why I do not consider consolidation to be the answer. The object is not only to ascertain what powers have been given to the Assembly but also to ascertain which of those powers it has exercised.

77. What then is the solution? In my judgement the measure which is most appropriate for Wales at this stage is an electronic index on a subject by subject basis of the Assembly’s powers and of the powers it has exercised and, if possible, the instruments by which those powers were exercised. We are presently scoping the work and when that is completed it is proposed that a project board be set up to take it forward. Such an index could provide the Assembly and the public with a source of information which is constantly updated. Without such an index, a knowledge and understanding of the law in Wales is likely to prove elusive.

 

Evidence - Part II

In this section of my evidence I deal with the matters you have asked me to deal with and with some additional matters raised by other witnesses.

The corporate nature of the Assembly

78. Can it now be assumed that the Assembly has evolved out of its corporate shell? The relevance of the question is obvious. If it has, there would be no need for primary legislation to change its structure into that of a parliament.

79. Being responsible for having introduced the words "de jure" and "de facto" into the Assembly’s vocabulary, I think I have an understanding of the sense in which the Assembly has evolved in its working practices. In my opinion, the Assembly has to all practical intents and purposes evolved out of its corporate shell. I emphasise "practical" because section 1 of the Government of Wales Act 1998 remains on the statute book and whilst it does the answer to the question, in the eyes of the law at least, is that the Assembly is as much a corporate body today as it was when it came into being. Whether decisions are taken in Crickhowell House or in Cathays Park, they are the decisions of the National Assembly for Wales and it is that name which would appear as defendant or respondent in any legal proceedings brought to challenge those decisions or to any complaint of mal-administration or misfeasance in public office. Proceedings alleging the latter might also be brought against the individual holder of an office if he/she were thought to be personally involved in taking a decision known to be ultra vires or otherwise unlawful. The Assembly cannot be liable to prosecution (section 1(3) GOWA) for the corresponding criminal offences but individual office holders are so liable.

80. In addition to those reasons why the corporate nature of the Assembly is still very real, there are a number of other equally important reasons why it must continue to operate corporately. Whilst a number of its functions have been delegated to ministers a number of them remain exercisable only by the Assembly. These non delegable functions include salaries; pensions; polls; making subordinate legislation and standing orders; audit committee; auditors; voluntary organisations; sustainable development; Schedule II paras. 1(4), 4(7), and 7.

81. Certain important consequences flow from the fact that the Assembly continues to be a corporate body –

  • Every decision, act or omission of the Assembly whether under delegated authority or not has the potential to incur liability on the part of the corporate body.
  • The Permanent Secretary and the Counsel General, as accounting officer and legal adviser respectively to the corporate body, have a very real interest in and a very real responsibility for its decisions, no matter where or by whom they are taken. They, as well as the Assembly, fall within the ambit of the tort of misfeasance in public office and the corresponding criminal offence.
  • There being only one interest, the corporate interest, that is the interest which they are duty bound to serve.
  • The notion that there is a conflict of interest which precludes them from performing this duty or renders it undesirable that they should seek to do so is misconceived. There can only be one Permanent Secretary, Principal Accounting Officer and one source of authoritative legal advice. Conflicts of duty arise only when the adviser acts in a representative capacity and then only when representing different or competing interests. The Counsel General does not REPRESENT any element within the Assembly when giving advice. For example, he does not represent the First Minister when called on to give him advice or the Permanent Secretary when called on to advise him.

82. The corporate nature of the Assembly is not the problem some witnesses perceived it to be. There is a great deal of flexibility within this settlement. Were it otherwise, the officials and the politicians could not have shaped it as they have in such a short period of time. That does not mean to say that the settlement has enduring qualities and that is a matter to which I should like to turn to next.

83. In my view, the question of whether the settlement does or does not have enduring quality is one of central importance in any discussion as to its future. If it does not, its demise is certain and its replacement by some very different settlement is probably inevitable, I would think, and, in those circumstances, any perceived uncertainties in its existing powers would not be of the greatest importance. I emphasise the words "I would think" because I acknowledge that these are matters of policy and therefore for ministers not officials.

84. To place a legislature and an executive within the same corporate shell was to place too heavy a strain on the settlement. Having created a corporate body which was intended to function as a parliament it was inevitable in my view that the strains which occurred would occur. If I might respectfully suggest, the officials and the politicians have addressed this in a pragmatic way. What now obtains is probably as good a solution as the circumstances will permit; to go further would require primary legislation.

85. The legislature and the executive have been living apart for more than three years. They remain married but only legally. So far apart have they grown, they have taken different names and different identities. If they were human beings the law would permit them to divorce and thereby formalise the separation. If the legislature and the executive were to separate, it would simply take the existing factual position to its logical conclusion.

86. The other reason why the present settlement does not have an enduring quality is that it depends on the arbitrary difference between primary and secondary legislation or, more particularly, on what parliament decides, on a measure by measure basis, shall be provided through primary legislation and what through secondary legislation.

Can the Assembly acquire the capacity to make primary legislation within a reasonable time

87. If there is a constitutional case for devolving authority to make primary legislation, the National Assembly for Wales must acquire that capacity to enable that to be done. The interval between the making of a recommendation that the Assembly should have primary legislative powers and the date on which the recommendation is to be carried into effect is likely to be sufficient to enable OCG to develop or acquire that capacity. I would respectfully agree with the Permanent Secretary that "compared with the changes that have already taken place, the acquisition of further powers, including those of primary legislation, would represent a manageable progression not a major step change, in terms of demand upon most staff … . Policy officials and the Office of the Counsel General already undertake all the work needed to instruct Counsel on Assembly legislation. So the additional work should be confined to the drafting of making the legislation itself …".

88. I am quite confident that given reasonable notice, the Assembly could produce high quality primary legislation. The responsibility will lie not just in OCG but will require team work between legislation and policy colleagues. In this process OCG will have two main roles.

The preparation of instructions to the draftsman

89. This is an area in which OCG is already acquiring significant experience because of our input into Whitehall-led legislation.

The drafting of the primary legislation

90. If the Assembly is to produce primary legislation, OCG may be invited to provide the legislative competence. I have already commenced discussions with First Parliamentary Counsel as to the methods whereby this may be achieved and I am aware that a long training period will be involved. The Office of the Parliamentary Counsel itself was not established until 1869 and it began with one single draftsman. Our position is not dissimilar save that we have the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel to emulate. The most likely, and not too difficult, course is to engage one senior draftsman with Whitehall experience and one junior draftsman to act as the nucleus of a drafting team. It is also possible to supplement that team with drafters from the commonwealth and it is also possible to place OCG lawyers within the Parliamentary Counsel’s office for training. In addition to all this there are a number of firms of parliamentary agents which specialise in the production of legislation and the Assembly could procure their services.

91. Prior to devolution, there was considerable uncertainty as to the resources which would be required by the Assembly. This is as true of legal requirements as other aspects of the Assembly’s business. The Assembly was not fully equipped to operate as at 1st July 1999. The parallels with future requisition of new powers are clear. The Assembly may not be fully equipped but with determination, flexibility and ingenuity, the Assembly has already demonstrated how much it can achieve and I would therefore strongly rebut any suggestion that OCG will not be in a position to play its part in assisting the Assembly in the delivery of primary legislation. I have every confidence that it will.

Is there significant uncertainty as to the Assembly’s functions under the TFO or any other instrument by which the Assembly has received its powers?

92. A number of witnesses have given evidence to the effect that the settlement is unusually complex and that the powers of the Assembly are ambiguous, vague or uncertain or all of those things. If all those opinions are sound then the Assembly lawyers have been working in a legal minefield since May 1999.

93. I do not believe there is unusual complexity or uncertainty. If there is it arises out of the nature of the settlement rather than from the drafting of the Government of Wales Act 1998 and from instruments drafted in Whitehall rather than here at the Assembly.

94. As I say, I do not believe that there is unusual uncertainty as to the powers of the Assembly. Indeed, the evidence is to the contrary. There have been remarkably few legal challenges to the decision of the Assembly and the lawyers in OCG have not experienced significant difficulty in interpreting and applying the Assembly’s powers to the situations which called for their application. I looked recently at the number and nature of judicial challenges to the Assembly’s decisions and compared those statistics with the four years immediately preceding the establishment of the Assembly. The figures were provided to me by the Assembly law librarian based on Lexus-Nexus database. They show that in the four years preceding the Assembly, 43 actions were brought against the Secretary of State for Wales in respect of decisions made by the Welsh Office and 20 cases were brought against county councils in Wales during the same period. For the four years commencing with the Assembly, 15 actions were issued against the Assembly and 49 cases against county councils in Wales during the same period. Of the 15 proceedings issued against the Assembly, 11 were appeals or challenges to planning decisions (which are decisions of planning inspectors). That leaves four cases since late 1999 involving decisions of the Assembly itself. Of that four, one involved a decision made in October 1999 and did not involve any post-devolution legislation. Another was an unsuccessful challenge to the Assembly’s policy of culling sheep during the foot and mouth epidemic of last year and one did not involve Assembly legislation or the transfer of functions order. That then leaves only one case, namely R (on the application of S Wales Sea Fisheries Committee) v NAW. This was a successful challenge to a post-devolution order made by the Assembly. For the sake of completeness, according to the same source (Lexus/Nexus), five cases were brought against the Secretary of State since devolution. Two of these were in respect of decisions of planning inspectors and three were not. These facts undermine the view that the powers of the Assembly are significantly uncertain.

95. Those who argue that the Assembly suffers a significant amount of uncertainty with regard to its powers and functions pray in aid the disputes surrounding the performance related pay of teachers and GMOs. And I therefore come to deal with those two matters.

Performance Related Pay and GMOs

96. I would respectfully suggest that what some commentators have measured is not so much the issues which surround these two controversial matters but the reactions, of which they are part, to those issues. The experience of the Assembly lawyers who were involved in advising on these matters leads them to very different conclusions on the issue of uncertainty. The conclusion they draw is that despite the controversy which surround these matters the law in relation to them is not uncertain. The issues in relation to these matters had little or nothing to do with the clarity or otherwise of the Assembly’s powers and a great deal to do with the political view that the Assembly’s powers should be other than they were. It is true that a number of legal opinions were sought on the teachers’ pay issue but that was because the legal advice given by the education lawyer in OCG was unwelcome. When Mr Widdrington’s advice was questioned by members of the committee, I looked at the issue myself. I was satisfied that the law was precisely as was represented by Mr Widdrington in his advice. In all, I believe there were no less than five legal minds which were brought to bear on the issue including that of Mr Widdrington, who is an expert in the law of education, two Queens Counsel (including myself), the solicitor in the presiding office and the junior counsel whom he consulted. Quite remarkably, all advices were to the same effect. What that demonstrates is not uncertainty, as Mr Osmond argues, but certainty.

97. With regard to GMOs, I have already explained in paragraph 99 above that there is no real uncertainty as to the Assembly’s powers in this area. Assembly lawyers have not had any doubts as to the meaning and effect of the Assembly’s powers. The idea that the National Assembly for Wales would be able to ban genetically modified ("GM") crops in Wales if it had primary legislative powers is also misconceived. The real limit to the Assembly’s scope for action is the wider European Union framework on the deliberate release of genetically modified organisms and related legislation on seeds marketing. There are circumstances where Member States and sub-state authorities empowered to act under the relevant Directives can provisionally prohibit or limit the use or marketing of genetically modified organisms ("GMOs") or crop seeds containing GMOs, but the final decision on such measures is taken at the European level().

98. The Community has adopted harmonising legal measures, which have "occupied the field" in respect of the deliberate release of GMOs and the marketing of seeds. This means that Member States have no discretion to introduce national laws that do not accord with the relevant European Directives. It follows that the same principle applies to sub-state authorities with devolved powers such as the National Assembly for Wales.

99. The key Directives in respect of the release and marketing of GM crops are Directive 2001/18/EC on the deliberate release of genetically modified organisms, Directive 2002/53/EC on the common catalogue of varieties of agricultural plant species and a series of species specific marketing Directives. Crop varieties intended for use as food must also comply with Regulation 258/97/EC concerning novel foods and novel food ingredients.

100. Before a food crop seed can be marketed freely in Wales it must –

  • have a European wide marketing consent under Directive 2001/18/EC;
  • be on the UK National Seed List or the European Common Catalogue as required by Directive 2002/53/EC;
  • it must be approved for use as food under Regulation 258/97/EC; and
  • be certified in accordance with the species specific seed marketing Directive (e.g. Directive 2002/57/EC on the marketing of seed of oil and fibre plants).

101. As far as issues of risk to human health and the environment are concerned the central Directive is 2001/18/EC (formerly Directive 90/220/EEC). The Directive establishes a risk assessment based approach to release in two stages. Individuals or companies wishing to release or market unapproved GMOs must apply to the competent authority of the relevant Member State. The first stage is an application for consent to an experimental release (called a ‘Part B consent’ after the relevant Part of the Directive). The second stage is an application for marketing which leads to assessment of the application at the European level (called a ‘Part C Consent after the relevant part of the Directive).

102. Applications for Part C consents are sent to the competent authorities of the Member States in which it is intended that marketing will take place for the first time in the EU. Member State competent authorities receiving applications make the initial environmental risk assessment. The competent authorities of other member States and the Commission can then comment on that assessment and if there are any objections to consent being given the decision is taken in accordance with a "comitology" procedure(). This means that the matter is referred to a committee of the representatives of the Member States for a decision. In the event of deadlock the decision goes to the Council of Ministers. If the Council fails to reach a decision within a fixed period the Commission takes the decision.

103. Once a GMO has European wide marketing consent Member States and their devolved authorities cannot prohibit or limit the marketing or use of the GMO or products containing it, except in accordance with any conditions on the consent set at European level. There is however a safeguard procedure which allows Member States and their devolved authorities to impose prohibitions or limitations on the marketing or use of GMOs which have EU wide Part C consents if there is –

  • new or additional information made available since the date of the consent and affecting the environmental risk assessment; or
  • reassessment of existing information on the basis of new or additional scientific knowledge, and
  • they consider that the product subject to the consent to present a risk to human health or the environment.

104. Directive 2002/18/EC is implemented in the UK by Part VI of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 ("the 1990 Act") and regulations made under that Act. All of the Minster of the Crown functions under Part VI of the 1990 Act are devolved to the National Assembly for Wales, in so far as those functions are exercisable in relation to Wales(). The Assembly is also designated for the purpose of making regulations under section 2(2) of the European Communities Act 1972 ("the 1972 Act") in respect of the control and regulation of the deliberate release of genetically modified organisms, in so far as concerns human health or environmental protection().

105. The transfer of functions under the 1990 Act and the designation for the purposes of regulations under section 2(2) of the 1972 Act means that the Assembly is the competent authority in Wales for the purposes of the Directive and exercises Member State functions specified in that Directive, such as the safeguard procedure. The following matters are Assembly functions –

  • assessment of applications for experimental releases of GMOs in Wales (Part B releases)
  • if it is proposed that a product is to be marketed for the first time in Wales, the application must be made to the Assembly and the Assembly makes the initial assessment (Part C marketing consents).
  • taking safeguard action to prohibit or limit the marketing of authorised GMOs where there is information that casts doubt on the existing environmental risk assessment.
  • Making regulations to implement EU obligations on the deliberate release of GMOs, including power to make modifications to the 1990 Act for that purpose().

106. Primary legislative powers will not give the Assembly power to do things in respect of the deliberate release of GMOs that it cannot do already under Part VI of the 1990 Act or section 2(2) of the 1972 Act and the existing EU framework, now contained in Directive 2001/18/EC. The Assembly is obliged to comply with European Law; both impliedly as a result of its status as an emanation of a signatory Member State to the Community Treaties the provisions of which are given the force of law in the UK by section 2 of the 1972 Act, and expressly by section 106 of the Government of Wales Act 1998.

107. Primary legislative powers might be a useful addition to the Assembly’ powers, but only in limited circumstances. If the EU framework changes significantly it might be necessary or desirable for the 1990 Act framework to be completely recast. There is no prospect of this occurring at present, but if this should ever be done, it is arguably more appropriate for that to be done by primary legislation rather than regulations under section 2(2) of the 1972 Act. The 1972 Act also has a number of limitations set out in Schedule 2 to the Act, which might make such regulations an inappropriate vehicle for all aspects of legislative change of this kind.

108. The advantage for the Assembly in having primary legislative powers in this field would be to give the Assembly the option of establishing greater clarity for the public on the law that applies to Wales on deliberate release. At present the law on deliberate release of GMOs as it applies to Wales is a complex mesh of provisions in primary legislation, secondary legislation made under the 1990 Act, 2 transfer of functions orders, and one designation order in respect of section 2(2) of 1972 Act. Even with primary powers, however, the Assembly could only enact a system that was in accordance with the relevant EU measures in force at the time. It could not enact a wide-ranging ban on GM crops that operated outside the product by product risk assessment process created by Community law.

109. The Assembly has resolved to apply the most restrictive regime possible under Community law. This policy is lawful and has guided recent action by Assembly Ministers. The Assembly has acted to impose separation distances in the case of one GM maize variety that has an EU wide Part C marketing consent. The purpose of doing this was to prevent contamination of conventional and organic maize with pollen from GM maize. The Assembly’s action in respect of this product was notified to the Commission in accordance with the Directive and a decision of the relevant regulatory Committee is awaited. The Assembly’s action has made a significant contribution to the EU wide debate now on going in respect of the co-existence of GM crops with conventional and organic crops.

WINSTON RODDICK QC

Counsel General
National Assembly for Wales

December 2002

 

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