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Audit Committee Chair - Submission to the Richard Commission

Audit Committee Role & Remit

Contents

Annex A

Section 60 of the Government of Wales Act (the Act) requires the Assembly to establish an Audit Committee. Its members have to be elected by the Assembly, which must ensure that, as far as is practicable, the balance of parties in the Assembly is reflected in the membership of the Committee. The Act prevents the First Secretary or any other Assembly Secretary from being a member of the Audit Committee. Standing Order 12.1 prevents the Committee being chaired by a member of a political group that is represented in the Assembly Cabinet. These provisions are designed to ensure the Committee’s independence.
The responsibilities of the Audit Committee are set out in detail in Standing Order 12. (A copy of which is attached at Annex A and extracts from the relevant parts of the Government of Wales Act are attached at Annex B).
In broad terms, the role of the Audit Committee is to examine the reports on the accounts of the Assembly and other public bodies prepared by the Auditor General for Wales; and to consider reports by the Auditor General for Wales on examinations into the economy, efficiency and effectiveness with which the Assembly has used its resources in discharging its functions.
The post of Auditor General for Wales is currently held by Sir John Bourn, who is also the Comptroller and Auditor General for the UK, although there is no requirement in the Act that the two posts should be held by the same person.

Witnesses

The Committee has the power to summon certain witnesses or require the production of documents in accordance with Section 74 of the Act. Schedule 5 to the Act lists organisations for the purposes of this section. Broadly, they are public bodies exercising functions in Wales in fields where the Assembly also exercises functions. Any person who is a member, or a member of staff, of an organisation on the list in schedule 5 is subject to the terms of section 74, as is any individual listed in schedule 5 or an employee of such an individual. The Committee has not had to use these powers as yet.
The normal practice is to invite the current Accounting Officer, and any other relevant staff, to give evidence to the Committee. The Committee has expressed some concern about this limited range of people it can compel to attend, in particular its inability to require former members of staff in the specified public bodies to attend. (This arose in connection with the Committee’s report on the Centre for the Visual Arts, where staff responsible for the project had moved on. In the event the individuals accepted the invitation to attend the Committee, although they were not obliged to do so).

Range of organisations covered

The Committee’s remit is closely tied to that of the Auditor General for Wales and therefore, like the Auditor General for Wales (AGW), the Audit Committee does not cover all public bodies in Wales. For example, local authorities fall outside the remit of the Auditor General for Wales and the Audit Committee, although around 80 per cent of their funding comes from the Assembly.
The Assembly Government has requested that the UK Government bring forward primary legislation to set up a single audit body for Wales headed by the AGW. This body would bring together the functions currently exercised by the National Audit Office and the Audit Commission in Wales. When this new system is in place, it is expected that the AGW will be able to scrutinise Assembly money wherever it goes. Consideration will then need to be given to whether changes are required to the operation of the Audit Committee.

Significance of the corporate body for the audit function

It is also worth noting that any significant change to the structure of the Assembly, for example replacing the corporate body with a legally separate Assembly and Executive, would have an impact on the audit function.
In terms of the important principle of audit independence, it is not acceptable for a public body with executive functions to appoint its own external auditor. Legally, the Assembly is a corporate body with executive powers and therefore cannot appoint its auditor. Instead the Secretary of State advises the Crown on the appointment of the AGW (after consulting certain key post holders). In Scotland and Westminster the Parliaments are able to take a more formal role in the appointment process of their equivalent of AGW. Similarly the Secretary of State has a role in protecting the independence of the AGW. For example, the Secretary of State and not the Assembly, has the power to amend the bodies subject to the AGW's remit and has to be involved if the Audit Committee wishes to change the budget of the AGW.
Therefore, if the Commission proposes any changes to the constitution of the Assembly it would be appropriate to consider whether any consequential changes are needed to the audit arrangements.
 
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