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WELSH LOCAL GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION

Evidence to Richard Commission
On the Structure, Powers & Electoral Arrangements of the
National Assembly For Wales

Whether the present electoral system is sufficiently representative?

Changes to the Voting System

83.   The concept of proportional representation is not supported by the majority of the Association and our policy on this has been clearly set out in the detailed evidence we provided to the Sunderland Commission in 2002. We are also of the view that it is not the electoral system which causes the problem of low electoral turnout. The trend of low attendance at all elections, we suggest, would not be improved by a change to the electoral system. It is issues and policies, and real debate which engages the electorate and not systems.

84.   On all available evidence the best mechanism to increase turnout is the use of postal voting and not complex STV systems which inevitably lead to political stasis. This is confirmed by the empirical evidence in the form of the recent English Local government elections.

85.   We would also seek more innovation particularly to encourage young people to vote whether through the internet or by text messaging (subject to data protection rules). The world has moved on and British Democracy’s "cheap and not very cheerful" approach to electoral practice typified by polling stations in old church halls or school cloakrooms needs to be supplemented by the benefits of technology.

86.   The outcome of the May 2003 elections has however produced an emerging problem with the Assembly voting system. The Association is concerned at the perverse outcome whereby very low polling candidates in constituency seats are allowed a second "bite" to represent that party on the regional seat. This may lead to candidates of the same political party gaining significant votes in a constituency seat but not being elected on the regional list, while other candidates who may finish bottom in a constituency contest can use the regional list to be elected despite, in certain cases, a vote that barely exceeds a 1000 electors. This may have a detrimental impact upon how the public comprehends such a ‘twist of fate’, how the public views the electoral system and hence the institution itself in terms of fairness and ultimately democratic legitimacy. The documentation to support this view is available on request.

87.   The regional list system is unclear to the public as they may presume that their ‘second vote’ or their list vote is for ‘the party of their choice’, rather than a specific candidate. Indeed the public’s second vote is promoted as such, as promotional literature from the Electoral Commission advises that ‘…with your second vote…you choose a political party or individual candidate to represent your region’. (from ‘Your vote on 1 May’ leaflet). This is not strictly accurate, as the voter is in effect restricted to choosing the parties’ preferred hierarchy of candidates not an ‘individual’ candidate at all. This anomaly is exposed further if the candidate at the top of the regional list in the party of a voter’s choice is also standing in the voter’s local constituency too. Some members of the public can therefore cast two votes for the same candidate.

88.  We propose that the Commission consider revisions to the existing electoral system. The simplest of these would be to restrict a person standing for both a regional and constituency seat.

89.   Another alternative could be that the STV system remains but that the regional list ballot is purely a vote for a party. Ballot papers would therefore appear with only the choice of parties without lists of candidates. The STV votes could then be calculated in the same method, with seats awarded proportionally to the parties but the seats being awarded to the highest polling unsuccessful candidates for each party in that region. This revision would provide allow greater transparency and provide greater democratic mandate to the regional representatives.

Whether any changes would be needed if the Assembly were to acquire further powers

90.   Throughout this paper we have provided evidence why significant further powers should not be conferred on the National Assembly. It is the view of the Association that the debate on the structure to support any proposed constitutional changes should await the recommendations of the Commission. Second guessing is not beneficial and we would not want to presuppose the recommendations of this Commission.

Issues relating to the Fire and Police Authorities

91.   The Fire and Police Authorities in Wales are associate members of the WLGA and whilst they will provide their own submissions it is appropriate that we indicate the Association’s position regarding the potential devolution of both Fire and Police Services.

92.   The Association recognises that the Police Authorities in Wales see some potential advantages for policing if the service was devolved but only after intensive consultation, debate, examination and research, and with varying degrees of enthusiasm. We are of the view that any decision regarding police devolution needs to be taken not only after extensive consultation, consideration and research, but also after taking account of the best interests and needs of the communities in Wales. Such consideration would also need to assess the implications for and relationships with non-devolved areas in the criminal justice field.

93.   Safety is a key expectation of all communities and closer co-ordination between policing at the devolved services will clearly have advantages. However, crime is no respecter of borders and it will be essential that collaboration is enhanced not deterred by any devolution of policy or practice.

94.   In relation to the Fire Authorities we understand that views vary from authority to authority on how much power the Assembly should have over the Fire Authorities. We understand that discussions have already begun over devolving service policy to the Assembly. The Association will be pleased to contribute to the examination of this but would stress its belief that the service should remain a local government service and that service boundaries should not be changed.

Conclusion

95.   The Association in its evidence to the Richard Commission has sought to stress the emergence of a positive partnership with the Assembly. We are minded how much the first years of devolution have changed the landscape of governance in Wales and how this contrasts with the pre 1999 situation. Indeed it is illustrative to cast our minds back to this situation when our relationship with the Welsh Office was limited and in the broadest sense "colonial".

96.   The enhancement of local government through the devolved settlement has been recognised in a recent study by the University of Glamorgan which concluded that through its representative body the WLGA "it had ensured that the space for discretion and autonomy of local government has increased since devolution". This has also to be attributed to the partnership working which has played a major role in Assembly – Local Government relations since the inception of the Assembly in 1999. Although there is still much scope for improvement, the "Welsh Way" is promoting continuous betterment in local government and service delivery.

97.   Since 1999 Assembly and local government relations have developed and prospered. The statutory Partnership Council created under the Government of Wales Act 1998 to promote joint working and co-operation between the Assembly and local government is an example. In addition the Welsh context also sees a range of informal mechanisms which "oil" the wheels of good government. This includes a willingness to engage with the politicians of the WLGA in political terms (although this is by no means an even or uniform process).

98.   Consequently as an emerging inter-governmental partnership at a high level there is coherence and understanding with local government and evidence of successful joint working. Institutional closeness however will mean nothing unless real service outcomes are delivered to the Welsh electorate. In this sense the recent pronouncement by the First Minister about the creation of his new Cabinet amounts to a wider manifesto for the new Assembly Government, namely that an emphasis on social justice will "mark out the second administration as different from the first. We've got to deliver for the people in Wales who’ve got left behind and where the new prosperity has not reached them." In this setting the Association takes the firm view that while the constitutional debate is of real importance, the condition of our communities across Wales must be the top priority for elected politicians in Wales.

 

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